Archive for January, 2010

The Best of the Rest: 2010 Free Agents

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January 28th, 2010 by
Categories: Projections

By my calculations, this week’s rush of free agent signings (Sheets, Nady, Thome, Winn, Garland, etc.) has left only five free agents with positive fantasy value.

These are players who have two main questions marks surrounding them for 2010: The first question is what their situation will be like on the team where they sign. Will they be an everyday starter or just a bat off the bench? And the other concern is age. Most of these guys are well into their 30′s, and some decline is expected. There’s a possibility, however, that they’re in for a nosedive instead of a gentle decline.

Both of those risk factors make these five players worth watching as the season gets closer:

Johnny Damon ($14)
Now that it looks like the Yankees have moved on without him, I’m very concerned about Damon’s fantasy value. He managed a revival last year launching homeruns into the short RF porch at New Yankee Stadium, so leaving New York looks like bad news for him.

(CHONE and CAIRO both try to adjust for park, but Yankee Stadium as a whole was not that favorable for homeruns. Damon, however, seemed to particularly exploit its dimensions in a way that aren’t accounted for in the park factors. I think the HR’s projected are way too optimistic.)

Then there’s age: Damon is 36 years old. He’s a lock to sit out 15-20 games. Basically, I’m not betting that Damon manages to repeat anything like last year, and I’m not going anywhere near the $14 the Price Guide suggests for him.

Erik Bedard ($12)
The Price Guide has an unhealthy infatuation with pitchers who don’t pitch many innings, so of course Bedard with his projected 106 IP is a Price Guide favorite.

He is projected to strike out over 9 batters per nine with a solid ERA and WHIP, so there’s definitely something to like here. If he puts together most of a full season in 2010 he’ll be a steal at $12.

Jermaine Dye ($10)
Somehow Jermaine Dye is a player who had completely fallen off of my radar: I never would have guessed he was projected as a double-digit player, and I was even a little surprised that he was valued above replacement ($7) last year.

I think I must have been burned on him in 2007, when he followed up a 44 HR, .315 BA year in 2006 with 28 HR and a .254 average. Since then, he’s maintained his 25+ HR power, but the average has varied tremendously.

The Reds look like they could be a good fit for Dye, if he’s still up for playing OF everyday, and Great American Ballpark seems like a good fantasy location. I’m not finding a whole lot of teams that have a regular spot open for an OF/DH, though.

Orlando Cabrera ($10)
Cabrera has seemingly been a fantasy mediocrity for years. I think part of that reputation is that he doesn’t stand out in any category: He hits a few homeruns, but not too many. He steals a handful of bags, but is never among the league leaders. His batting average is decent — not a killer but nothing special, either.

If he can find an everyday job, then I expect Cabrera will put up another unremarkable (but still valuable) fantasy season.

Felipe Lopez ($6)
Felipe is looking for potentially his sixth team in five years. Despite being continually passed around by real teams, he’s the kind of player who can provide a cheap boost for a fantasy team if you stick with him.

In previous years, Lopez has added some fantasy value by qualifying all over the diamond — playing some 2B, 3B, SS, and OF. This year he will initially only qualify at 2B, although (depending on where he signs) he may gain another position quickly.

A few other names worth keeping an eye on:

Darren Oliver
Orlando Hudson
Jarrod Washburn
Garret Anderson
Kevin Gregg
John Smoltz

The Strasburg Questions

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January 27th, 2010 by
Categories: Projections, Sleepers

Yesterday, I asked what you would be willing to pay for Stephen Strasburg if your draft were held today. Reassuringly, the comments I received echoed what I had been thinking, and they basically raised the same questions that I have.

The projections so far (CAIRO and ZiPS) have him as a late-round 4.00+ ERA pitcher for about half of a season. That would probably be worth a mid-single digit bid in most leagues.

But there are enough questions around Strasburg to make bidding much more complicated. I see at the following factors weighing in on Strasburg’s value:

How many innings will Strasburg pitch in 2010?

I don’t follow the Nationals too closely, but right now it looks like there’s at least a chance Strasburg could start the season in the majors. There aren’t a ton of great options available for Washington, so a good spring gives Strasburg a shot at spending April in D.C.

However, it has become common practice to cap a young player’s innings to prevent injuries, and so I’d say the most optimistic prediction for Strasburg would be 160 IP. The Nationals won’t have anything to play for in September, so I’d think they would shut him down.

Of course, the Nationals may also decide to start Strasburg off in the minors. In that case, we’re talking about something closer to 100 IP.

I’d say the risk of only getting 100-150 IP out of a SP is a factor that keeps Strasburg’s value low for 2010.

How high is the upside?

I mentioned yesterday that projecting Strasburg in 2010 is more complex than just picking a single number, like a 4.38 ERA. I’m making up some numbers here, but let’s throw out some quick probabilities for what Strasburg’s ERA might look like:

5% – 3.00
10% – 3.50
25% – 4.00
40% – 4.50
20% – 5.00

That gives, on average, a 4.30 ERA. It also gives Strasburg a 5% chance of becoming a top-tier pitcher immediately. There’s a 10% chance he winds up in the middle-tier for fantasy, and a 25% chance he’s worth a late-round grab. Most (60%) of the time, however, he’s waiver wire fodder.

I admittedly have no idea how realistic those probabilities are. However, I think the chance of him being either good or very good gives him a much higher ceiling than your typical 4.38 ERA pitcher. And I think that upside must slant his value a little bit higher.

How much risk can your fantasy team assume?

When drafting, I try to balance out upside picks with more conservative choices. If I already have, say, Roy Oswalt and Roy Halladay, then I have quite a bit of freedom to take some chances with the rest of my pitching staff.

The answer to this question will be mostly dependent on how your draft is progressing when Strasburg comes up. But I think it also matters regardless of context specifics. In general, I think pitching depth looks pretty good this year. It seems like it will be possible to put together a solid, reliable staff without spending too much money. The availability of quality SP might make me somewhat more inclined to take on a riskier proposition.

Put all of those factors together, and I’m guessing that I’d be willing to bid about $8 on Strasburg in a typical league. That’s not enough to ruin my season if things go wrong, but I think there’s a decent chance he’s worth it.

Where Would You Draft Stephen Strasburg for 2010?

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January 26th, 2010 by
Categories: Projections, Sleepers

CAIRO’s latest update gives the Price Guide its first projection for the Washington Nationals’ Stephen Strasburg:

4 W, 4.38 ERA, 1.47 WHIP, 70 K, 76 IP

SG is going from college stats here, so this is still wildly speculative. The Price Guide indicates that a pitcher with those stats isn’t worth starting in most fantasy leagues, including NL-only leagues. It would be the kind of pitcher you draft for your bench, only to drop in April so you can pick up some guy who starts the season on an unexpected hot streak.

Dan Szymborski’s ZiPS gives a somewhat more optimistic look for Strasburg:

10 W, 4.18 ERA, 1.32 WHIP, 113 K, 114 IP

That’s a draftable pitcher for late in a fantasy baseball draft. The IP make it hard to find a comparable, but that’s roughly what you might expect from Rich Harden or Chris Young. (They have injury risk, but Strasburg has risk as well.) It’s also not too far off from what you might expect from A.J. Burnett (with significantly fewer IP).

With Strasburg, of course, you’re not simply drafting a projected statline. There’s an enormous amount of upside, much more so than your typical 4.38 or 4.18 ERA pitcher. That upside is obvious for those in keeper leagues, but is it worth anything in 2010?

What do you think? Let’s say you’re in a 12 team, standard redraft league and have $260 to spend. If your draft were held today, what would you pay for Stephen Strasburg?

And you can’t say, “I wouldn’t draft him because someone else would pay more.” How cheap would he have to come for you to bid on him?

I’ll give my answer tomorrow.

Johan Santana, Josh Beckett, and…Colby Lewis?

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January 25th, 2010 by
Categories: Projections, Sleepers

Here are CHONE’s 2010 projections for three very similar-looking starting pitchers:

Pitcher A – 3.96 ERA, 1.20 WHIP, 150 K, 168 IP
Pitcher B – 3.89 ERA, 1.23 WHIP, 165 K, 183 IP
Pitcher C – 3.85 ERA, 1.23 WHIP, 174 K, 187 IP

Pitcher C is World Series hero and fantasy mainstay Josh Beckett. Pitcher B is two-time Cy Young winner Johan Santana. Pitcher A, of course, is Colby Lewis.

Colby Lewis? Really?

Lewis has spent the last two years playing for the Hiroshima Toyo Carp in Japan’s NPB league. He was recently inked by the Texas Rangers to fill out their rotation. Before his time in NPB, he was a top prospect for Texas who managed some unimpressive MLB stats from 2004-2007. In Japan, however, he became a new pitcher:

2008 – 15 W, 2.68 ERA, 1.00 WHIP, 183 K, 173 IP
2009 – 11 W, 2.96 ERA, 0.92 WHIP, 186 K, 176.3 IP

CHONE takes those awesome Japanese stats and tempers them considerably; the sub-3.00 ERA and sub-1.00 WHIP are lost in the translation. Even taking quite a bit off of his NPB stats, Lewis looks like a very good player in MLB.

Before you get too excited abut Colby Lewis, though, I’ll make a few cautionary observations:

1. CHONE hates Santana as much as it loves Lewis.

The comparison of Colby Lewis to Johan Santana is not just a statement about Lewis, but also about Santana. CHONE is projecting a 3.89 ERA for Santana, and he hasn’t topped 3.33 in the past eight years.

Apparently there needs to be a separate post to examine what to expect from Johan Santana in 2010. So that comparison is more for shock-value than for balanced analysis. Guys like Matt Garza and James Shields are the sorts of guys we really expect to have a 3.90 ERA with lots of strikeouts, and they are probably a better benchmark for Lewis.

2. Not all projections love Colby Lewis.

ZiPS isn’t on this site for 2010, but it is considerably less optimistic for Lewis:

11 W, 4.39 ERA, 1.30 WHIP, 128 K, 176.3 IP

That’s still above replacement level, on par with end-game picks like Gavin Floyd and Andy Pettitte. ZiPS appears to be putting less weight on his Japanese stats and more on his undistinguished MLB-career.

This raises an important question: Which is more indicative — recent stats in a non-MLB context or MLB stats from three or four years ago? Colby Lewis in 2010 could be an important data point in this discussion.

3. Translating Japanese stats is an imperfect exercise.

While MLB-NPB translations are based on how the switch impacted other players, it is still hit-or-miss. The Japanese game is simply different than what is played in North America, and skills that were valuable in one league might not help in the other.

However, the track record for CHONE has been pretty good on recent imports Hiroki Kuroda, Kenshin Kawakami, and Koji Uehara. These were pitchers who looked like decent-not-great fantasy pitchers based on the projections, and who basically lived up to those expectations. The fact that a 2.90 pitcher like Lewis would be a 3.90 pitcher in MLB seems to indicate that the translation is being fairly conservative.

The bottom line: Lewis could come very cheapily in 2010 drafts, as long as the hype on him doesn’t build. Magazines that have an early print date probably won’t be aware of him, and that means that there are probably several people in your league who won’t be aware of him, either. There’s also no $51 million posting fee to create the buzz like what surrounded Daisuke Matsuzaka.

Even using the more pessimistic ZiPS, I feel pretty good about paying at least $5-6 for Colby Lewis. At that price, it’s not a big deal to cut him if he doesn’t work out. If it turns out CHONE is right, then that’s a cheap bet that could pay huge dividends.

2010 Marcels and (Saves + Holds) Are Up

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January 23rd, 2010 by
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You may have noticed it already, but the 2010 Marcel projections are now available on the Price Guide. Many thanks to Tom Tango for allowing me to use them here.

I also had a request for a fantasy category of saves + holds, and that is now available. Keep in mind that no one projects holds, so what you are seeing is just the past year’s stats.

Adjusting the Hitter/Pitcher Split (Part III)

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January 22nd, 2010 by
Categories: Strategy, Theory

Part I of this series was simply a look at a new feature of the Price Guide — the ability to customize the hitter/pitcher split whereever you wanted. Part II was an experiment to see how that feature works in real-life, using the Tout Wars league as an example. Now we get to the implications of this tool — Should you create values that imitate the values of your league?

Last year, I spent quite a bit of time trying to figure out why real-life drafters were willing to spend more on hitters and less on pitchers than what the Price Guide recommends:

Examining the 70/30 Split
Diverging from ADP
More Thoughts on ADP

My final conclusion was that…well, I never really figured out why this happens.

However, I’m not sure if a conclusion on what is most correct is really essential. I have two simple things in mind for approaching my drafts this year with regard to the hitter/pitcher split:

1. Adjust the prices to fit the league’s historical tendencies.
This would mean, for example, that if I were in Tout Wars Mixed, I would use the 72/28 split that models reality instead of the 63/37 that the Price Guide default spits out. I don’t know if this is the correct thing to do, but it does work.

Why is that? In simulating drafts, I’ve noticed that trying to buck league trends is a quick path to failure. If you are willing to draft pitchers early but the other eleven people in your league wait, you will probably lose.

The opposite is also true — if everyone in your league drafts pitchers with their first picks and you draft hitters instead, you will also lose. One person by himself or herself cannot exploit a league’s weakness. A player is only worth what the league is willing to pay for him.

Adjusting the split to match the league is valuable because it helps get the bargains. If I get in a bidding war for CC Sabathia and win him at $40, I might only be paying a fair price according to the Price Guide defaults. But if the bidding on Sabathia is an outlier and most top pitchers go for around $30, then I am probably missing a bargain price on someone else because I was willing to pay a “fair” price on Sabathia.

If I adjust the split, I will either pay a fair price (according to your league) or a bargain price (according to the default Price Guide split). Either way, it is impossible to overpay.

2. Be willing to spend extra on pitching when necessary.
I balance the first strategy with a willingness to occasionally exceed the adjusted split.

While I’m not really confident in the Price Guide’s default splits, I’m also not confident that the leagues are doing a better job. And so, for certain pitchers, I’m going to be willing to spend an extra $1-2.

Doing so will still leave me below the Price Guide’s default prices on those pitchers, and it still allows me to bid competitively on the top-tier hitters. Once again, I think it’s as close to a win-win as I can get.

Am I on the right track here?

Adjusting the Hitter/Pitcher Split (Part II)

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January 21st, 2010 by
Categories: Theory

Yesterday, I described a feature that lets you force the Price Guide to use any hitter/pitcher split you desire. Even if the Price Guide suggests a 67/33 split, you can make it go 70/30 instead.

Let’s try out the enter your own hitter/pitcher split feature using the Tout Wars Mixed League. Tout Wars is a competitive expert league using standard 5×5 rules, with 17 teams in the Mixed league.

At the 2009 auction, the highest paid hitter was Jose Reyes at $55. (Paying $55 for Jose Reyes was not a recipe for success last year, by the way.) The most expensive pitcher was Johan Santana ($34). The names and exact dollar amounts aren’t really important, though; we’re just trying to identify the basic scale for hitters and pitchers. In general, hitter values top out at $50+ and pitchers at $30+.

The Price Guide disagrees radically — the 2009 composite projections with the Tout Wars settings ranked the top hitter at $45 and the top pitcher at $47. Instead of the $50+ and $30+ that occurred in reality, we’re looking at basically $45+ and $45+. The top pitcher has not only closed the gap with the top hitter, but actually surpassed him.

Looking across the top prices, the Price Guide’s top hitters are all too low and the top pitchers are all too high using the default settings. The problems stem from the hitter/pitcher split that the Price Guide settles on: 63/37. In real life, Tout Wars participants are willing to spend considerably more on hitters and are quite a bit more conservative with pitchers.

What can we do to align these perspectives? Let’s start adjusting the Price Guide’s hitter/pitcher split beyond the 63/37 it start with. By the time we get to 72/28, things are looking better: The top hitter is now $51 and the top pitcher is at $35, pretty close to the $55 and $34 we started out with. More importantly, the lists are congruent when compared past the top spot. The 10th hitters ($37, $37), 20th hitters ($30, $31), and 10th pitchers ($20, $20) are all quite close in value between the Price Guide and the actual results in Tout Wars.

So now it’s pretty easy to make sure that the Price Guide’s results conform to reality when you are generating dollar values. It’s still not completely clear if this is a good thing, though. That will be what we look at tomorrow.

Adjusting the Hitter/Pitcher Split (Part I)

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January 20th, 2010 by
Categories: Theory

One of fantasy baseball’s basic rules of thumb is the idea that you should spend about 70% of your auction dollars on hitters and the remaining 30% on building a pitching staff.

This is a useful guideline, but, of course, any rule will have exceptions. For leagues that start more pitchers (or fewer hitters), your budget will probably be slanted closer to 65/35 or even 60/40. Since the split is league dependent, the Price Guide does not presuppose any split but allocates dollars without regard to hitters and pitchers. (Typically, it will end up close to 70/30 anyway.)

I noticed last year, however, that the Price Guide tends to put a higher value on top-tier SP than typical auctions and drafts. Whereas a typical draft puts the first pitcher off the board late in Round 1 or early in Round 2, the Price Guide was suggesting pitchers from the start. That trend is continuing this year: Roy Halladay will probably be valued by the Price Guide as the #1 or #2 overall player in most leagues.

I’ve wrestled quite a bit with whether the Price Guide or the conventional wisdom is correct, and I’m still not completely sure of the answer. Regardless, I’ve decided there’s a good bit of value in at least allowing the Price Guide to create values that mimic real life.

So you will notice a new feature this year to enter your own hitter/pitcher split:

Setting a custom split with the Price Guide

This allows you to force the Price Guide to use a split that is realistic for the way your league really drafts. If your leaguemates will spend 72% of their money on hitters, you can enter a 72/28 split to get a better idea of how they will bid. If you’re in a draft, you may just need to gradually nudge the split in one direction until it matches what you expect to see.

Part II of this series will experiment with this feature for a real-world league, the experts’ Tout Wars Mixed League. In Part III, we’ll look at what the implications might be from letting your league dictate the values.

Interesting Catcher Prospects

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January 19th, 2010 by
Categories: Keepers, Projections, Sleepers

Last week, I pointed out some unexpected players who had positive fantasy values due to their speed and stolen base potential.

In combing through the Price Guide, there is a second set of relatively surprising players who show up above replacement level: Minor league catchers.

The problem here is twofold: First, the replacement level for catchers is really low, especially in leagues that start two of them. When a guy can hit .260 with 12 HR and be considered above average, you know it doesn’t take much offense to be above replacement.

The second issue is with the defense rigors of catching. There are quite a few guys in the minors who have a major-league quality bat for a catcher, but not a major-league glove. (Likewise, they could handle first base on defense, but their offense wouldn’t be worth it.) So they are stuck in the minors until their defense improves.

There’s no one as interesting as Matt Wieters was last year, but there are several of relatively unknown catchers who are showing up in positive territory:

J.R. House (KC – $5)
This one is a mystery to me. House is 30 years old and has just finished his third year in AAA. His 2007 and 2008 minor league stats look good, so I’m guessing that’s part of what is driving CHONE and CAIRO to both place this guy above replacement level (basically on par with Chris Iannetta).

Luckily, this projection is an enigma that shouldn’t cause much concern. House is buried on the Kansas City depth chart behind the newly-arrived Jason Kendall and returning favorite Brayan Pena.

Carlos Santana (CLE – $4)
Buster Posey (SF – $1)

Carlos Santana and Buster Posey have some similarities and are worth looking at together. Both are top prospects, and neither is really blocked by anyone on the major league roster. Cleveland traded off Victor Martinez (BOS) and Kelly Shoppach (TB) to free up a spot for Santana, and San Francisco let their incumbent, Bengie Molina, leave for free agency.

Now, it is possible that one or both of these teams will attempt to acquire a 1-year stopgap to give their prospects more time to develop (and to prevent them from accruing service time). That was the case last year with a somewhat better catching prospect in Baltimore, as the Orioles grabbed Gregg Zaun with the intent of easing in Matt Wieters. Even with the possibility of their teams bringing in a veteran, I’m still counting on an ETA for both of these guys sometime in 2010.

The projections are split on who they like better for 2010. CHONE ranks Posey a bit above replacement and Santana just below it. CAIRO places Santana about $12 higher than Posey, with one on either side of the replacement level. Posey has the better prospect pedigree of the two and probably the one I would favor as well.

I’d say that Wieters’s 2009 is about the best you can expect from Santana or Posey in 2010: Two-thirds of a year with about 10 HR and a not-deadly average. That’s a lower end starter in a two catcher league or a decent bench player for leagues starting one catcher.

Jesus Montero (NYY – $1)
Montero is the Yankees’ clear number one prospect, recently drawing a comparison from John Sickels to perrenial fantasy first-rounder Mike Piazza. Unfortunately, Montero is unlikely to see any time in 2010 with Jorge Posada entrenched as the starter and a couple of solid backups (Jose Molina and Francisco Cervelli) already in place. It’s possible that he could enter the picture in 2011 (the last year of Posada’s current contract) and potentially handle the lion’s share of starts in 2012.

All of that assumes he sticks at catcher, which isn’t a guarantee at this point. For 2010, despite already having 20 HR power, his only value is as a keeper.

Jonathan Lucroy (MIL – $2)
Angel Salome (MIL – $1)

We’ll tackle these two Milwaukee catchers together. Jason Kendall has moved on to Kansas City (see J.R. House above), which means Milwaukee should be trying out a new catcher in 2010. Interestingly, CHONE seems to prefer Salome to Lucroy, and CAIRO like Lucroy more than Salome.

The bottom line: Posey and Santana look like the main targets, guys clearly worth bidding on this year. Lucroy or Salome could be a $1 flyer in two-catcher leagues, depending on how the Brewers handle things. Montero is a 2011/2012 keeper only, and House is probably not worth targeting.

A couple of other names of interest that the projections like:

John Hester (ARI)
Tyler Flowers (CWS)
Michael McKenry (COL)

Projecting 2010 Saves

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January 18th, 2010 by
Categories: Projections, Saves

With Jose Valverde signing with the Tigers and Octavio Dotel apparently heading to Pittsburgh, the closer situation for most teams has been settled.

You may have noticed, however, that one of the most glaring difficulties with using computer-generated projections (CAIRO, CHONE, etc.) for fantasy baseball is the lack of saves in these projections. Recognizing that saves are much more tied to a player’s situation than to his skills, most computerized projections make no attempt to quantify the number of saves for each player.

While that represents the reality of projecting, it obviously won’t work for fantasy, which allocates 20% of the pitching points based on saves. But what can be done to fix this?

I was hoping that the FanGraphs Fan Projections would be helpful for this, but there are still lots of pitchers (Joe Nathan, for one) who don’t have enough projections to show up. As it is, there’s at least enough data to pick an appropriate scale — about 40 saves for the top closers and 15-20 for the marginal ones.

So I have attempted to come up with my own save projections. I started off with a list sorted by the number of saves from the past two years, averaged with a 2:1 weighting. From there, I tweaked the rankings to account for changes in situations and a rough estimate of skill. The results are four basic tiers of closers:

40 Saves
Joe Nathan (47 S in 2009, 39 S in 2008)
Mariano Rivera (44, 39)

35 Saves
Jonathan Papelbon (38, 41)
Francisco Rodriguez (35, 62)
Brian Wilson (38, 41)
Francisco Cordero (39, 34)
Joakim Soria (30, 42)
Heath Bell (42, 0)

Papelbon and K-Rod are near the 40 save tier, but I think they’re just a shade below the top two. Bell and Soria both require some bonus credit to get ranked this highly, compensating for Soria’s missed time in 2009 and Bell’s single year track record.

30 Saves
Trevor Hoffman (37, 30)
Jose Valverde (25, 44)
Jonathan Broxton (36, 14)
David Aardsma (38, 0)

At this level, everyone has question marks. We’ve got injuries (Valverde, Francisco, Qualls), age-concerns (Hoffman), and one-year samples (Broxton, Aardsma) clouding the situation. These guys are still pretty solid, though.

25 Saves
Brian Fuentes (48, 30)
Brad Lidge (31, 41)
Ryan Franklin (38, 17)
Bobby Jenks (29, 30)
Huston Street (35, 18)
Matt Capps (27, 21)
Rafael Soriano (27, 3)
Chad Qualls (24, 9)
Frank Francisco (25, 5)
Billy Wagner (0, 27)

Despite leading the league in saves in 2009, Fuentes was a little rocky and now has Fernando Rodney on his team. Lidge’s totals look good, but I’m also a bit concerned with his late-season breakdown. Capps and Soriano have some question marks for injuries. Basically, this is the tier where I’m not surprised if anyone loses the closer’s gig by the All-Star break.

20 Saves
Kerry Wood (20, 34)
Andrew Bailey (26, 0)
Brandon Lyon (3, 26)
Mike Gonzalez (10, 14)

15 Saves
Leo Nunez (26, 0)
Carlos Marmol (15, 7)
Scott Downs (9, 5)
Jason Frasor (11, 0)
Octavio Dotel (0, 1)

The 15-20 range are all really speculative; I expect a good number of these guys to lose the closing job by midseason. Scott Downs and Jason Frasor seem like the best candidates in Toronto, but I can’t find any information about who is more likely to get saves.

These are back-of-the-envelope calculations — not exactly mathematically rigorous but certainly better than 0′s for everyone. I’m also not watching these players nearly as close as the fans of their teams are, and so I’m hardly an expert on their situations and skills.

I’ve gone ahead and added them to the Price Guide as the default save projections for CHONE, CAIRO, and the composite projections. I’d still encourage you to edit the projections how you see fit, but I think this at least starts things off looking more reasonable.

However, I’d really like some help in refining these numbers. Anybody have any suggestions for improving these tiers?