Comments on: April’s Biggest Underperformers

By: Nick J

Nick J — Sun, 17 May 2009 21:13:11 +0000

Another vote here for ROS values. And thanks again for the greasemonkey scrips. So very cool…

By: neo

neo — Fri, 15 May 2009 19:34:25 +0000

Another thought… those scripts that you have that put the $ value based on season so far into the fantasy web sites could then be upgraded to provide two values. $ value so far (as current) and $ value projected for Rest of Season.

That would be very, very, very cool.

I don’t use those scripts right now, because it is looking back and I need to look at value moving forward. But to have both there would be amazing value.

By: neo

neo — Fri, 15 May 2009 19:31:45 +0000

I concur with Chris as well. Rest of Season projections is by far the most valuable. Nobody on the internet has a free site that does rest of season projections converted into dollar values.

Also, I agree with the others, this site is the best!

By: Tyler

Tyler — Fri, 15 May 2009 03:53:45 +0000

I concur with Chris that ROS is the best. Updated Season Projections has some utility in that it’s a little easier to get a snapshot of a player’s keeper value for next year, but ROS dollar values are probably more important for most users.

Mays, can’t say enough about the site. Keep up the great work.

By: Chris

Chris — Thu, 14 May 2009 23:51:40 +0000

That’s awesome. Daily updated projections like Fangraph’s would obviously be the best. Fangraphs might even help you implement it since they seem pretty open and have referenced your site a bunch (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&as_q=%22Last+Player+Picked%22&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&num=20&lr=&as_filetype=&ft=i&as_sitesearch=fangraphs.com&as_qdr=all&as_rights=&as_occt=any&cr=&as_nlo=&as_nhi=&safe=images).

For fantasy use I think ROS is the only important stat. To see how well a player has done you would just use 2009 stats. ROS would help you figure out who should be best in the future. Updated Season Projections would just be confusing for fantasy use.

I think the only use for the Updated Season Projections is for real baseball, i.e. to figure out who will win MVP, Cy Young, etc.

By: Mays

Mays — Thu, 14 May 2009 23:27:57 +0000

Which do people think would be more useful: Dollar values for the entire season (actual + projected rest-of-season) or just the rest-of-season projections?

By: Mays

Mays — Thu, 14 May 2009 23:22:38 +0000

I’ll look into adding the in-season ZiPS.

I’d prefer to find some way to have the projections updated dynamically each day as the season progresses (like FanGraphs). If not, I can probably at least add the monthly updates.

By: Tyler

Tyler — Thu, 14 May 2009 03:30:23 +0000

Not to make more work for an already fantastic site, but I whole-heartedly agree with this:

(after all isn’t that why we’re using LPP – we could always eyeball player’s preseason value but LPP gives us a much more accurate evaluation)

By: Chris

Chris — Wed, 13 May 2009 08:16:39 +0000

BTW MV – You’re reading it wrong. ZiPS preseaon projection for Sabathia was 3.07. His Rest of the Season Projection is 3.16 (based on the fact that he has pitched poorly the last month – ZiPS, and all similar computer projections, have no clue that Sabathia pitches poorly in April). His ROS of 3.16 plus his 3.94 so far is why ZiPS projects his FINAL season (ZiPS Update) ERA to equal 3.33.

By: Chris

Chris — Wed, 13 May 2009 08:10:11 +0000

I will put in a big time vote for adding ZiPS Rest of Season (ROS) Projections. Yes you can get an intuitive feel for how much a player is worth by eyeballing their preseason value and their current season but ZiPS ROS provides a much more accurate calculation of their true value (after all isn’t that why we’re using LPP – we could always eyeball player’s preseason value but LPP gives us a much more accurate evaluation). I think ZiPS ROS allows people to get a better idea of how much they should adjust their perception of player valuation.

I know I’ve personally always had trouble adjusting my thoughts on how good a player really is. Last year I had Kinsler and really appreciated how well he performed but I was really surprised that his performance had taken his value all the way up to a second round player. Having ZiPS ROS combined with LPP would be an awesome way to verify or question my gut feelings on a player’s current value.

BTW they now have ZiPS in-season projections in sortable format for all players. http://www.fangraphs.com/projections.aspx?pos=all&stats=bat&type=rzips